After a poor weekend for England and Wales, Eddie Jones and Wayne Pivac's positions at the helm are reviewed in Episode 42 of The Rugby Paper Podcast.
Host Ollie Little and columnists Brendan Gallagher and Nick Cain are joined by former England lock and current Red Roses forwards coach Louis Deacon to have their say.
Louis also looks back at the Red Roses journey at the World Cup 2022 in New Zealand, and the guys pay tribute to Scotland legend of the game Doddie Weir, who passed away last weekend six years after being diagnosed with MND.
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